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	<title>Comments on: Guantanamo is the Holocaust?</title>
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		<title>By: M.</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49341</link>
		<author>M.</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>That's bullshit, open your eyes.  Guantanamo is far more than some prison facility for bad guys, so many inside aren't even given a trial... let alone being innocent.

Get your nose out of Bush's Ass and open your eyes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s bullshit, open your eyes.  Guantanamo is far more than some prison facility for bad guys, so many inside aren&#8217;t even given a trial&#8230; let alone being innocent.</p>
<p>Get your nose out of Bush&#8217;s Ass and open your eyes.</p>
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		<title>By: DMona</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49342</link>
		<author>DMona</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 13:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49342</guid>
					<description>How do you know that all those people are part of a terrorist organization?

Seriously, itâ€™s easy to assume that, and take the word of the government. Where is the evidence, Where are the charges.  Itâ€™s not a concentration camp, but itâ€™s scary to note that the flag bearer of freedom the US, will just take your freedom away if it feels there is an a outside chance your a treat.

Its plain wrong,   

I will concede that some of the people in there should be in prison. They are evil sons of b**tchs, and murdureous killers.  But how do we know which ones are guilty and which are not if you can't put them on trail.

Last year 3 British people where released without charge from gitmo after a fairly long stay.  They got back to the UK, where arrested again, and interviewed for days. The Uk security forces couldn't find that they did anything wrong.

Gitmo ain't no Nazi camp,  but the US is going down a slippery slope and will eventually become a place with a lot less freedom that there is now.  It absolutely will be nothing like Nazi Germany, but it will be a different place. Maybe not the kind of place the boys are out dying for right now.

I'm sure there are better ways of tackling the reasons for the existence of gitmo. I'm not saying I know what they are, but there must be a better way, not just an easy "lock people up and pretend they don't exist"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you know that all those people are part of a terrorist organization?</p>
<p>Seriously, itâ€™s easy to assume that, and take the word of the government. Where is the evidence, Where are the charges.  Itâ€™s not a concentration camp, but itâ€™s scary to note that the flag bearer of freedom the US, will just take your freedom away if it feels there is an a outside chance your a treat.</p>
<p>Its plain wrong,   </p>
<p>I will concede that some of the people in there should be in prison. They are evil sons of b**tchs, and murdureous killers.  But how do we know which ones are guilty and which are not if you can&#8217;t put them on trail.</p>
<p>Last year 3 British people where released without charge from gitmo after a fairly long stay.  They got back to the UK, where arrested again, and interviewed for days. The Uk security forces couldn&#8217;t find that they did anything wrong.</p>
<p>Gitmo ain&#8217;t no Nazi camp,  but the US is going down a slippery slope and will eventually become a place with a lot less freedom that there is now.  It absolutely will be nothing like Nazi Germany, but it will be a different place. Maybe not the kind of place the boys are out dying for right now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are better ways of tackling the reasons for the existence of gitmo. I&#8217;m not saying I know what they are, but there must be a better way, not just an easy &#8220;lock people up and pretend they don&#8217;t exist&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: smittyhere</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49343</link>
		<author>smittyhere</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:17:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49343</guid>
					<description>Maybe they get these ideas from leaders of the US Senate, like Dick Durbin and Ted Kennedy.

&lt;a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200506221031.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;Durbin

&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a&gt;Ted Kennedy&lt;/a&gt;

These are leaders of our country that get voted in by the people in their states because they represent their views.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they get these ideas from leaders of the US Senate, like Dick Durbin and Ted Kennedy.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg200506221031.asp" rel="nofollow">Durbin</p>
<p></a><a>Ted Kennedy</a></p>
<p>These are leaders of our country that get voted in by the people in their states because they represent their views.</p>
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		<title>By: smittyhere</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49344</link>
		<author>smittyhere</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49344</guid>
					<description>The moonbats in post 1 and 2 are great examples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The moonbats in post 1 and 2 are great examples</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49345</link>
		<author>Chad Evans</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49345</guid>
					<description>They were picked up on the field of battle in Afghanistan fighting against Coalition soldiers.  Who else fought against the Coalition soldiers in Afghanistan other than members of Al Qaida and the Taliban?

I know the case you're refering to DMona.  There is a huge difference between releasing someone due to lack of evidence versus doing nothing wrong.  As I've outlined on this site numerous times, intelligence gathering and intelligence sharing often constrict what can be used in a court of law that has an open records system.  

There is still plenty of freedom here in the United States and there always will be.  These prisoners at Guantanamo have far more freedoms there than most criminals in U.S. prisons and those in Guantanamo are not merely criminals.  If the countries of origin where these people come from would take them, which most of these nations do not want to touch these people, then we wouldn't be in this situation in the first place.  

M, I don't know how I can respond to your comment.  Are you telling me those inside Guantanamo are innocent?  There have been military trials which is in accordance to international law, even though the Geneva Convention does not cover these types of fighters.

One problem which we face with Guantanamo is that there is not any legislation on how to deal with foreign terrorists captured at war.  There are laws on how to treat and detain foreign soldiers from a sovereign nation, but not nation-less soldiers who blend in with society.  Legislation, whether it's national or international, should be passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were picked up on the field of battle in Afghanistan fighting against Coalition soldiers.  Who else fought against the Coalition soldiers in Afghanistan other than members of Al Qaida and the Taliban?</p>
<p>I know the case you&#8217;re refering to DMona.  There is a huge difference between releasing someone due to lack of evidence versus doing nothing wrong.  As I&#8217;ve outlined on this site numerous times, intelligence gathering and intelligence sharing often constrict what can be used in a court of law that has an open records system.  </p>
<p>There is still plenty of freedom here in the United States and there always will be.  These prisoners at Guantanamo have far more freedoms there than most criminals in U.S. prisons and those in Guantanamo are not merely criminals.  If the countries of origin where these people come from would take them, which most of these nations do not want to touch these people, then we wouldn&#8217;t be in this situation in the first place.  </p>
<p>M, I don&#8217;t know how I can respond to your comment.  Are you telling me those inside Guantanamo are innocent?  There have been military trials which is in accordance to international law, even though the Geneva Convention does not cover these types of fighters.</p>
<p>One problem which we face with Guantanamo is that there is not any legislation on how to deal with foreign terrorists captured at war.  There are laws on how to treat and detain foreign soldiers from a sovereign nation, but not nation-less soldiers who blend in with society.  Legislation, whether it&#8217;s national or international, should be passed.</p>
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		<title>By: DMona</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49347</link>
		<author>DMona</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey,  maybe you should string em up and hang me from a tree the way ye used to, save having to spend americans hard earned cash putting them up in that military resort. Since its such a grand place. 

Or even better,  send the makers of crispy cream and the SUV manufactuers down there too.  Didn't you know that crispy cream donuts and SUV kill more americans in a month than al qeada have in 4 years.  They sound like a threat to me. 

I sure you haven't forgot the idea of constitutional rights, have you now.  Or do you think they should be changed so suit the new style of the american dream.  Mugabe has a camp for terrorists too you know.
Saddam had one
North Korea has a few
Iran has some.


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Following a detainee interview exact date unknown, while leaving the interview building at Camp Delta at approximately 8:30 p.m. or later, I heard and observed in the hallway loud music and flashes of light. â€¦ From the monitoring room, I looked inside the adjacent interview room. At that time I saw another detainee sitting on the floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped around him, loud music being played, and a strobe light flashing. â€¦ I understood prior to deployment to [GITMO] that such techniques were not allowed, nor approved by FBI policy.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey,  maybe you should string em up and hang me from a tree the way ye used to, save having to spend americans hard earned cash putting them up in that military resort. Since its such a grand place. </p>
<p>Or even better,  send the makers of crispy cream and the SUV manufactuers down there too.  Didn&#8217;t you know that crispy cream donuts and SUV kill more americans in a month than al qeada have in 4 years.  They sound like a threat to me. </p>
<p>I sure you haven&#8217;t forgot the idea of constitutional rights, have you now.  Or do you think they should be changed so suit the new style of the american dream.  Mugabe has a camp for terrorists too you know.<br />
Saddam had one<br />
North Korea has a few<br />
Iran has some.</p>
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Following a detainee interview exact date unknown, while leaving the interview building at Camp Delta at approximately 8:30 p.m. or later, I heard and observed in the hallway loud music and flashes of light. â€¦ From the monitoring room, I looked inside the adjacent interview room. At that time I saw another detainee sitting on the floor of the interview room with an Israeli flag draped around him, loud music being played, and a strobe light flashing. â€¦ I understood prior to deployment to [GITMO] that such techniques were not allowed, nor approved by FBI policy.<br />
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		<title>By: DMona</title>
		<link>http://www.inthebullpen.com/archives/2005/2990#comment-49348</link>
		<author>DMona</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Sep 2005 15:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>my response was not about your post Chad.  

I accept you statement Chad,  and I fully agree. something needs to be done to regularise the situation.  People stuck in limbo only incites conspiracy and negativiety. If the correct procedures where transparent, for all to see and ended in the hanging of the lot of em. So be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my response was not about your post Chad.  </p>
<p>I accept you statement Chad,  and I fully agree. something needs to be done to regularise the situation.  People stuck in limbo only incites conspiracy and negativiety. If the correct procedures where transparent, for all to see and ended in the hanging of the lot of em. So be it.</p>
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